I’ve had to solve problems with both the ignition switch resistance and with the safety switch resistance, in my case it was the clutch safety switch, but same idea.

I learned if the neutral safety switch doesn’t think I’m in either park or neutral, it won’t send power to the relay. If both do, and it doesn’t crank the engine, then the starter is probably failing. I decided to dive more into the Starter Fuse/Relay.

My next thought was it is the neutral safety switch, if not possibly the ignition switch. I decided to dive more into the Starter Fuse/Relay.

Discuss the GSX-R600, GSX-R750, GSX-R1000, and GSX-R1100, and more! The lights don't dim and I dont even here the clicking sound.I tried it in neutral and in gear with the kick stand up and still nothin. Lots of sparks but it should crank right away!

Im still surprised it hasnt become manditory yet? All lights work great and bright, with the exception of zero lights for the reverse. Your follow-ups will help here, and helps others with a similar problem reading this thread. The last time I had the fails to crank problem I determined that the ignition switch and safety switch wasn’t the cause, so I replaced both the starter motor and the battery. If I hook up jumper cables same thing, no crank. JavaScript is disabled.

With that being said, it makes me assume the way I grounded the NSS was correct that time because the car did turn over when I grounded the Starter Fuse/Relay (so their clearly was a full connection through the starter system).

Even w/those problems solved no-cranks recurred from time to time, all due to either the battery, battery connections, or the starter motor ass’y. When I bypass the starter fuse/relay the car turns over like a charm no problem whatsoever, the starter does not hesitate. and if there's any negatives about bypassing. How do you bypass the starter relay so the bike will start?I tried everything.when I turn the bike on the fuel pump comes on and all the lights work even the kill switch works but when I hit the switch to start the bike I get nothin. Plug the neutral safety switch back in, shift the transmission into neutral and then try starting the engine. At this point I am fairly stumped. Measure the voltage at the two electrical terminals connected to the starter. Thanks! Flounder: without the key in the ignition all he will get is cranking. They all worked fine before my car had this issue. If one or both don’t meet that voltage test, work backwards toward the battery to find out why. The battery works fine when charged/jumped.

My hope was with the Starter Fuse/Relay back in the vehicle, I could bypass the NSS and get the vehicle to start.

thanks allot. This quick-fix will work temporarily, but you should contact a repair technician to help you repair the refrigerator relay and get your appliance back in working order as soon as possible.

You may have a shorted coil in the starter motor solenoid for example, which could cause this symptom. Come join the discussion about performance, modifications, troubleshooting, maintenance, classifieds, and more!

I went ahead and got a new fuse/relay and when I put it in, the same thing happened.
well after the quad wont do anything when hitting the start button im convinced now its got to be the starter relay is bad. What are your thoughts? Ghstface...That piece of info was a freebie! I tested all the wiring and voltage for the starter and the solenoid and those things you mention and they’re fine.

I decided to ground the terminals in which the fuse is placed. THE FLOUNDER WILL DO SO..

It’s just been sitting for a few weeks.

One is a thin wire, one is a thick one.

I’m assuming that since bypassing the relay, the vehicle is not getting positive voltage to the coil side of the relay. Sradiator - When I feel like calling someone a thief..

Somethings probably wrong with the bike then, if you are doing everything you used to get it started with when you weren't trying to bypass the starter relay and it still wont start... Why is there enough religion to incite war, but not enough to instill tolerance?

Somewhere in the starting system there is a disconnect. I think it may be the NSS, however I could foresee in the future having issues like you did have occasionally. The fuse itself doesn’t seem to have been the problem, it appears to be in good shape and a brand new one didn’t help.

Bypass it! and i was just wondering is there anyway i can just bypass it so i don't have to buy a new one? I tried this and was able to bypass the Starter Fuse/Relay and the car started.

At that point I would assume it is a bad battery (since it would be even okder). My car is a 2005 Scion tC AT.

Your The Bestest. I decided to ground the terminals in which the fuse is placed.

I think he can make ammends by getting his red R and sending us a check for 20.00 EACH!

Knowing the old Fuse appeared to look in good shape, and a new one made no difference I ruled that out as the problem. However, if those resistances are too high the voltage test I mentioned above usually wouldn’t pass. JavaScript is disabled. I just wanted to get your guys’ thoughts in case that could also be connected to the issue as well as to see if it means the issue is something other than the NSS.

With that being said, I went to try and ground the NSS. It does not crank when I turn the key. I was able to get the car to turn over and try to start (the battery has been sitting for awhile at this point and needs charged) by a combination of grounding the relay fuse (like I referred to in the beginning of this post) as well as the first way I tried grounding the NSS ( the first picture of me grounding the NSS connection at the bottom, everything else I did is also pictured.). Harsh words for a man (or woman) self proclaimed FLOUNDER! I have a 90’s model year Corolla and have battled crank problems several times over the years.

I am assuming something is keeping the relay from getting voltage to it’s coil side.

The car doesn’t crank at all. I will try that and let you know how it works, thank you! Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled, Yh0B2OgCs6uZOW4tzzIcpVmHOeZMi6LQSyOkjuZq2YCUGMQ-_KO4gIIjjG0mCImLl8xtwV0lEse8vkXKrsem_XN9hzggrmOYzu5xhLQSyTsl15x_F_UaQIP66b5L3n2Pr5tySlQR.png, Car Only Starts when I Bypass the Starter Relay Fuse. Best of luck.

I had a similar problem, it was my clutch lever switch. The fuse/relay involvement is a symptom, probably not the cause. To avoid bypass compressor overload, don't leave the appliance in a state of relay bypass for very long. Both should measure at least 10.5 volts during attempted cranking. They all seem to look fine (nothing appears burnt out).

My hope was to narrow down that the NSS was the problem. A forum community dedicated to Yamaha YFZ owners and enthusiasts.

So if anybody has advice or knows how to bypass the starter relay I would greately appreciate it.:confused. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Suzuki GSX-R Motorcycle Forums Gixxer.com. I went ahead and got a new fuse/relay and when I … If you replace both the starter and the battery I expect that will solve this problem.

Keep us informed of your progress & what you discover. Both the ignition switch (pins 7-8 and 2-1) and starter relay contacts (pins 5-3) must measure a resistance of less than 1 ohm during the “start” function. That’s part of the starter motor ass’y. Here’s an update: I had someone else run through the lights with me to make sure.

Ahh come on he has been a member since march 07. What else could be the problem?

Grounding the NSS without any luck makes me think it wasn’t the problem.

Thanks for the response George! I removed the Starter Fuse/Relay from the fuse box.

A quick way to bypass the clutch safety switch is this... Take a safety pin and push it stright thru the 2 wires that come off that switch under the clutch lever assembly. Try running a HEAVY wire (as heavy as the battery wire) from the positive side of the battery to the top of the starter (where the wire connects to it) with the key switch on and the bike in neutral.

I removed the Starter Fuse/Relay from the fuse box.

theres nothing wrong with the starter because I jumped it and it ran great actually.

Only my Headlights and Brights are working in the front. I checked all of that while I was hooked up to another vehicle (for an extended amount of time) so the batter isn’t the culprit. One problem, the aftermarket replacement starter motor failed right out of the box. ahh... the old I stole a bike and want to know how to start it question.. Push your limits until you crash.. then back off just a bit.

It Was The Clutch Lever Relay And Now It Works. Thank you! Any other thoughts?

Using a Multimeter, I checked the basics to see if I had solid connections.I verified the solenoid, the starter, the alternator, the battery, the battery cables and etc. To bypass the starter relay, just touch the two top 10mm nuts with a screwdriver.

If the relay is bad, you have to buy a new one... You talking about the starter soleniod (the one with the heavy guage wires going to it) or the starting circuit cut-off relay (the one that has 3 or 4 small wires going to it and is mounted on the battery stay)? I went through tests to see what it may be (and had help going through some of this with some guys on ifixit.com.) I’ve already tried that with no luck. Regardless, that is all very useful info to if the NSS doesn’t fix the problem, AND even if it does. I tried this and was able to bypass the Starter Fuse/Relay and the car started. I wasn’t sure which wire contacts to jump for the NSS so I tried three combos for grounding the wires, all with no luck. If it had been, grounding it should have let the Starter Relay act correctly and start the vehicle (which wasn’t the case.) I’m sure the disconnect is the NSS like Tester said. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 901, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada.

So I took it back and installed a Denso unit and the Corolla has cranked right up perfectly ever since.

VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 901, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. You might try bridging the neutral safety switch as an experiement also, as if that resistance is too high you’ll get uneven operation of the start function.

I then started to take a look at the fuses. The park/neutral safety switch is also the reverse lights switch. It appears that none of the lights on the rear of the are car working. I am checking myself, but it seems clear to me that they do not turn on.

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Thanks A Lot Man. Is there a chance that the Starter Solenoid would be the issue? Thanks! I didnt steel it IM just lookin for a way to get it to work off the switch.

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